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PostPosted: Wed Jun 06, 2007 11:26 am    Post subject: Hard water vs Soft Reply with quote

Hi everyone.

This was just crossing my mind so I thought I'd voice it.

I live in a hard water area and am constantly annoyed by the water marks when spraying frogs and chameleons for instance. Are there any benefits of using hard water though? Especially when it comes to calcium supplementation. Obviously I supplement my animals regularly, and would not stop doing so, but does the calcium in the water make a significant difference to bone development etc? It may be that no-one knows, I just thought it was an interesting thing.
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PostPosted: Wed Jun 06, 2007 1:13 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'm sure the increased levels of calcium in hard water will have a positive effect for aiding development but I would think not enough to replace supplementation IMO.

To soften the water and stop deposits on glass then either boil it or filter it.
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PostPosted: Wed Jun 06, 2007 1:22 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

wethepeople wrote:

To soften the water and stop deposits on glass then either boil it or filter it.


Boiling water will not soften the water or stop the calcium deposits on the glass, and to filter it you will need a Ro unit (reverse osmosis)

If you read up on any of the dendrobate forums they all seem to use either RO or distilled water.
I used distilled water which cost about £2.50 a gallon and lasted about a month
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PostPosted: Wed Jun 06, 2007 1:54 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Also rain water works, but I have trouble collecting it (I live in a flat). It's not a major issue as you can wipe off residues with a flannel or muslin cloth and some warm water.
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PostPosted: Wed Jun 06, 2007 2:02 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

serpent wrote:
wethepeople wrote:

To soften the water and stop deposits on glass then either boil it or filter it.


Boiling water will not soften the water or stop the calcium deposits on the glass.
I used distilled water which cost about £2.50 a gallon and lasted about a month


What do you think distilled water is?!
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PostPosted: Wed Jun 06, 2007 2:18 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Distilling condenses the water and collects it doesn't it? With boiling any ionic content will stay in solution....hence limescale in kettles
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PostPosted: Wed Jun 06, 2007 2:30 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I use the tesco bottled water (own brand) large bottles cost about 79p and it works fine.
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PostPosted: Wed Jun 06, 2007 2:40 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

mcfluffin wrote:
Distilling condenses the water and collects it doesn't it? With boiling any ionic content will stay in solution....hence limescale in kettles


In theory, yes, distilled water is when the vapour from boiling is condensed and collected. Limescale is deposited in kettles when the water evaporates, so essentially i was wrong, however distilled water is boiled, that being my point.
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PostPosted: Wed Jun 06, 2007 2:46 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yes...you were indeed...I'm just being pedantic Very Happy
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PostPosted: Wed Jun 06, 2007 3:20 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

mcfluffin wrote:
Yes...you were indeed...I'm just being pedantic Very Happy


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