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Rickeezee Site Moderator
Joined: 18 Nov 2005 Posts: 9249 Location: Kent
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Posted: Thu May 04, 2006 6:35 pm Post subject: Death Head Roaches |
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I have very kindly been given 30 death head roaches mixed sizes. Any tips on housing, what will eat them, how to culture them etc. Thanks. _________________ www.rickslivefood.co.uk
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mark_w Key Member
Joined: 02 Nov 2005 Posts: 440 Location: Buxton, Derbyshire
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Posted: Fri May 05, 2006 9:24 am Post subject: |
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Hi Rick
I would put them in a plastic tub with a clip on lid, I have some that are about 15" x 10" x 8" high. Put a heat mat under 80% of this. Add lots of egg crate wedged in vertically. Feed bran, rolled oats, dry dog food, with fresh fruit and veg every few days. No substrate. Food in shallow containers (I use sunpat peanut butter jar lids).
They seem to do better at higher densities and warmer temps....
Cheers,
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Rickeezee Site Moderator
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Posted: Fri May 05, 2006 9:25 am Post subject: |
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Cheers Mark
Do they make good feeder roaches for herps? _________________ www.rickslivefood.co.uk
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mark_w Key Member
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Posted: Fri May 05, 2006 9:41 pm Post subject: |
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Rick I don't have these; I have Blaptica dubia which are a similar size etc. The large nymphs and adults are great for blue tongue skinks and bearded dragons. My fire skinks really like half grown ones.
I've had less success feeding my geckos with smaller nymphs though; they tend to hide under stuff before my fat tails get them, and the cresties don't seem very keen...My flying geckos take them though.
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Rickeezee Site Moderator
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Posted: Sat May 06, 2006 1:59 am Post subject: |
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mark_w wrote: | Rick I don't have these; I have Blaptica dubia which are a similar size etc. The large nymphs and adults are great for blue tongue skinks and bearded dragons. My fire skinks really like half grown ones.
I've had less success feeding my geckos with smaller nymphs though; they tend to hide under stuff before my fat tails get them, and the cresties don't seem very keen...My flying geckos take them though.
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Mine will mainly be for chameleons, but I will try them out on all I have got, you never know! _________________ www.rickslivefood.co.uk
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Siebren I've settled in...
Joined: 20 Jan 2006 Posts: 38
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Posted: Sat May 06, 2006 10:41 am Post subject: |
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It's been a while since I posted here, but as I have some years of experience breeding and feeding roaches I can't help answering in this topic...
I keep both Blaberus craniifer (death head) and Blaptica dubia (Argentine). I must disagree with mark_w, as my death heads are about twice the size of the dubia. In terms of nutritional valuye I think they are the same. (I also keep and feed them the same).
In my collection these roaches are eagerly accepted by Varanus acanthurus, V. gilleni Pogona vitticeps and the Tiliqua's. I know from other keepers they are also appreciated by most spiders, large amphibians and chameleons.
One advice for you Rickeezee, try to refuse the urge to start feeding from your first roaches. They need a lit of time to get started as a breeding group (especially with 'only' 30 something to start with). Leave them alone for the first months or so. (I didn't feed from mine for about half a year in the beginning). After that feed mainly the males and the sub adults.
They are slow breeders but once they get going they make an ideal feeder. (I only need to add some dog food or fruits every few days, and I keep thousands...!)
Cheers from Holland,
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Rickeezee Site Moderator
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Posted: Sat May 06, 2006 10:50 am Post subject: |
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Siebren, thanks for that. I also have a largish starter colony of lobster roaches my plan is to leave that for about 8 -10 months so it can get established.
I have quite a few reps so need to cultivate a large food stock before feeding them off otherwise the roaches will not increase enough to make this viable. In turn this will allow me to cut back on crickets.
The death head roaches were a free gift, which was a surprise and a real bonus. I had not planned on setting up a colony of these, as my lobsters were my first choice. But seeing as they are free I might as well.
Thanks everyone for your help and advice. _________________ www.rickslivefood.co.uk
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Siebren I've settled in...
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Posted: Sat May 06, 2006 11:27 am Post subject: |
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Just thought I'd show you how I keep them. Picture is of the dubia set-up (Blaberus is similar). Note that under each carton hundreds of adults are hiding..... |
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Rickeezee Site Moderator
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Posted: Sat May 06, 2006 11:38 am Post subject: |
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Very nice! Will take a while for my 30 to reach that number _________________ www.rickslivefood.co.uk
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mark_w Key Member
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Posted: Sat May 06, 2006 4:52 pm Post subject: |
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Fair enough Siebren, I thought they were about the same size, but I don't have craniifer. I do have Blaberus giganteus though - I know these are about four times the size of dubia!!!
Cheers,
Mark. |
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