Reptile Forum, Reptile Classifieds - CaptiveBred

Dracowoman2 · Posted: Fri Jul 18, 2008 1:15 am Post subject:

I believe that EVERY animal should be given a fair chance no matter what the species unless their is an obvious medical validation for ending it's suffering, other than that i don't see the need to cull for any other reason, you breed them you have to take responsibilty for them. I've been known to rescue hedghogs and bunnies out of the middle of the road at 2am on main roads, were they meant to be left there to die or did the road to incroach on their boundary?

I think Lynne owns the perfect example, the little one that she nursed and tube fed and is now feeding well for her, just because Kya didn't have a great start to life there was no reason to give up on her. I have personally sat on my rep room floor in the early hours dropper feeding lfat tail gecko hatchlings, some didn't make it despite my best efforts, but I have one little Amel that is now thriving and looking stunning, despite it's clutch mate getting the same treatment and giving up the fight.

I appreciate that in HUGE collections that kind of attention to each animal may not be possible, but if they are identified early enough could the young not be put into a seperate area (intensive care) so that they are all together and be dealt with on a different day?
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Lynne · Posted: Fri Jul 18, 2008 4:12 am Post subject:

thanks claire. to look at her now you would never know the start she had. although her sister nala, is 3 times her size as she has eaten like a bucket since the day i bought her.
when i took kya to the vet i was convinced he was going to advise putting her to sleep. when i went in and he examined her, he asked 'how far did i want to go'. i asked what he meant. he said'well she is a normal, loads of people wont spend the money fixing them cause they can be picked up pretty cheaply'.
i told him i had paid £20 for her, because she was a bad feeder. i also said that it didnt matter what it cost, i wanted her well. as long as she was fighting i was gonna be there too. he said that was all he wanted to hear. i dont see them as 'disposable'. when you buy or breed an animal or reptile, you take responsibility for that reptile. to make it happy, keep it well.
when my rabbit had mixi, it took over a year of intensive nursing, but he is still here digging holes all over the garden.
i think more and more people think this is an easy way to make money. when probably the truth is you will never make money, or not a great amount. that shouldnt be an issue in my opinion.
good thread fraser.
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Scott W · Posted: Fri Jul 18, 2008 8:53 am Post subject:

Central Scotland Reptiles · Posted: Fri Jul 18, 2008 10:36 am Post subject:

I believe if you are prepared to breed, you should be prepared to put in the hard work in establishing every since hatchling, unless of course if they have a physical deformity that will hinder their quality of life.
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Lynne · Posted: Fri Jul 18, 2008 12:00 pm Post subject:

Central Scotland Reptiles · Posted: Fri Jul 18, 2008 12:38 pm Post subject:

Oh yeah, i wouldn't play God. I would leave that decision up to my vet!!
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Lynne · Posted: Fri Jul 18, 2008 12:55 pm Post subject:

Central Scotland Reptiles · Posted: Fri Jul 18, 2008 1:27 pm Post subject:

Nor do i ( believe in God ) it is just a figure of speech.

The fact that i was at the vet's in the first place would mean i had already tried everything in my power to help the animal. I value the professional opinion of my vet. And if they recommend that the animal be put to sleep then i respect that.

I think most people are the same when it comes to their animals, if they need treatment, regardless of the cost, and regardless of the cost of the animal itself. I think most people would still be prepared to pay for it to get better.
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Central Scotland Reptiles - "Finding Beauty in the Beasts"