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JStroud Site Moderator
Joined: 10 Dec 2004 Posts: 4095 Location: Bucks
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Posted: Tue Jan 03, 2006 2:54 pm Post subject: R. ciliatus x R. chahoua |
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Its been around for a while but you don't get to see many pictures of them _________________ Regards James Stroud |
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zarozinia CaptiveBred Addict!
Joined: 25 Nov 2004 Posts: 894 Location: Lost in my own little world
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Matt Lusty Contributing Member
Joined: 21 Dec 2004 Posts: 81 Location: Gloucestershire
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Posted: Sat Jan 07, 2006 10:40 pm Post subject: |
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I quite like it. As long as it's marketed as a hybrid I don't see the problem. _________________ Well butter my bum and call me a biscuit! |
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Marlies I've settled in...
Joined: 25 Nov 2005 Posts: 30 Location: The Netherlands
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Posted: Mon Jan 09, 2006 12:01 am Post subject: |
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I really hate this to....
I hope they turn out to be sterrile. ( is that a proper englisch word?)
If someone is going to outcross those hiddious hybrids against normal ciliatus or chahoua, who can tell the difference???
I don't keep different species together, but if I really HAD to, for some reason, and they would breed, i would NEVER hatch the eggs..... |
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Scott W Site Admin
Joined: 15 Apr 2004 Posts: 13355 Location: London, England.
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Posted: Mon Jan 09, 2006 12:05 am Post subject: |
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Marlies wrote: | I really hate this to....
I hope they turn out to be sterrile. ( is that a proper englisch word?)
If someone is going to outcross those hiddious hybrids against normal ciliatus or chahoua, who can tell the difference???
I don't keep different species together, but if I really HAD to, for some reason, and they would breed, i would NEVER hatch the eggs..... |
If someone is going to outcross those hiddious hybrids against normal ciliatus or chahoua, who can tell the difference???
That's the thing that bothers me, not the First cross but the subsequent crosses that look almost pure and yes Marlies Sterile is the right word _________________
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Tariq Stark I'm new here...
Joined: 03 Jan 2006 Posts: 14
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Posted: Mon Jan 09, 2006 8:27 am Post subject: |
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I think it's very sad that people want to breed such animals. Sure it's interesting that two species that are phenotypical (is that a proper word in English?) so different can and will cross breed. But that doens't mean you should do this!
I've seen pictures of R.ciliatus-R.chahoua hybrids that look just like R. ciliatus. And frankly, that scares the crap out of me.
Rhacodactylus ciliatus was only rediscovered in 1994. It's our job to keep them "pure" (in lack of a better word). I truely hope you won't breed this animal. And I feel that you are obligated to keep this animal until he or she dies.
I hope you are not offended, it's not personal it's just how I feel about hybrids.
cheers,
Tariq Stark |
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JStroud Site Moderator
Joined: 10 Dec 2004 Posts: 4095 Location: Bucks
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Posted: Mon Jan 09, 2006 2:19 pm Post subject: |
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Not my animal, just been posted on the Kingsnake hybrid forums. I have known of this hybrid for a while but rarely see pictures, my views really echo yours in that sense. Although hybrids can be made and will live healthily (in some cases) its not something I'm attracted to. I'm very interested in keeping locales of certain species pure never mind species!! _________________ Regards James Stroud |
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Tariq Stark I'm new here...
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Posted: Sat Feb 25, 2006 2:57 pm Post subject: |
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I apologize, I did not know that this wasn't your animal. I'm glad we are on the same page on these hybrids. I've written article about hybridization in Rhacodactylus spp, alas it is written in Dutch.
Tariq |
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Silas d. I've settled in...
Joined: 17 Nov 2007 Posts: 32
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Posted: Mon Nov 19, 2007 8:52 pm Post subject: hybrids |
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personally
i do not see the problem with hybridization of animals
if many people are willing to inbreed animals brother x sister or sister x mother for the sake of preserving a new morph or characteristic
which i personally find ALOT worse than any hybrid !!
i mean
would you have sex with your sister because you look attractive and so does she ?
then what is the problem with hybrids ? |
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MJ Site Moderator
Joined: 26 May 2006 Posts: 5738 Location: London
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Posted: Mon Nov 19, 2007 9:08 pm Post subject: |
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So good you had to say it twice?
Also I think your a little confused see a sister and mother could never be bred back to each other as they are missing a vital ingredient
and finally would you have sex with a dog, monkey or a chicken to produce something new and cool? _________________ Paul
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