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PostPosted: Thu Jan 31, 2008 11:46 pm    Post subject: Re: Don't cry... Reply with quote

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aw am just going away to cry!!!!! Crying or Very sad


Please don't cry Lynne ... look at this one instead ... Steve Rousis Pastel Pied ...



aw am going histerical now!!!! Crying or Very sad Crying or Very sad
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PostPosted: Thu Jan 31, 2008 11:49 pm    Post subject: Re: Power feeding Reply with quote

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do you feel power feeding can also shorten a snakes life?


I'm sure it can and I don't agree with it ... if you intend to over feed to get growth, try SMALLER meals .... a friend of mine was sold a huge male Motley boa a few years ago (when they cost real money) and she couldn't get him to feed ... the bozo breeder who sold it had power fed him him ... I've never seen a fat snake in the wild ... yes, one with a meal in it but not fat ... lean males make better breeders.


John, what would you say is an acceptable feeding schedule? and how would you describe 'power feeding'?

And yes, I totally agree, lean males of almost all reptiles tend to make better breeders


When I want to "grow" my Ball pythons, I feed them every small meals every fourl days .... don't try that with boas though ... Once my ball pythons are adults, I feed the females on maintenance diet of one medium rat a week or to beef them up for breeding season a smaller rat twice a week. Males only ever get one feed a week. I know other breeders who push their snakes, I simply don't agree with them.
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PostPosted: Thu Jan 31, 2008 11:50 pm    Post subject: Re: Assist feeding ... Reply with quote

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If you have a cf 07 female ball python.
and the only way it will feed is assist and it has been assisted
for about 3 months what would you do.
It is already in a tiny tub. would you leave it for a few weeks or ??


I've had to assist some snakes for 2 - 3 mths but if the snake is normal and the environment is good, it should switch to normal food .... try feeding tricks, dark room, warm food, good hide box, try scenting the mouse on a African rat (don't know what you call them in the UK) ?


Thanks. . . dont know where i will get an african rat from!!!


Love the pastel pied!



Scott will this thread stay up I take it? for future reference.
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PostPosted: Thu Jan 31, 2008 11:51 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

i have a female common boa, around three and a half feet at the minute, she is on 2 weaners every 7 days. does this sound ok to you?
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PostPosted: Thu Jan 31, 2008 11:53 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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PostPosted: Thu Jan 31, 2008 11:54 pm    Post subject: Re: Power feeding Reply with quote

JBR wrote:
Scott W wrote:
JBR wrote:
Lynne wrote:
do you feel power feeding can also shorten a snakes life?


I'm sure it can and I don't agree with it ... if you intend to over feed to get growth, try SMALLER meals .... a friend of mine was sold a huge male Motley boa a few years ago (when they cost real money) and she couldn't get him to feed ... the bozo breeder who sold it had power fed him him ... I've never seen a fat snake in the wild ... yes, one with a meal in it but not fat ... lean males make better breeders.


John, what would you say is an acceptable feeding schedule? and how would you describe 'power feeding'?

And yes, I totally agree, lean males of almost all reptiles tend to make better breeders


When I want to "grow" my Ball pythons, I feed them very small meals every fourl days .... don't try that with boas though ... Once my ball pythons are adults, I feed the females on maintenance diet of one medium rat a week or to beef them up for breeding season a smaller rat twice a week. Males only ever get one feed a week. I know other breeders who push their snakes, I simply don't agree with them.


I have a three/four day gap between feeds, and also skip an entire week to fully rest them.

Even with a strict routine do you find some ball pythons grow a lot faster than others in the rack?
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PostPosted: Thu Jan 31, 2008 11:54 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

is an african rat not a gerbil? i dont know just thought i would see if anyone else knew!!!
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PostPosted: Thu Jan 31, 2008 11:55 pm    Post subject: My breeding shot of the day Reply with quote

here are some breedings I'm happy about this year ...

Orange Cinny x light Pewter



& Lemon Blasts on the way:



and lastly, Super Pastel YB in the making ...thats a pastel YB x pastel


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PostPosted: Thu Jan 31, 2008 11:55 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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is an african rat not a gerbil? i dont know just thought i would see if anyone else knew!!!


Where would I get a gerbil from? a frozen one?
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PostPosted: Thu Jan 31, 2008 11:55 pm    Post subject: Re: Assist feeding ... Reply with quote

SmallPaul wrote:
JBR wrote:
SmallPaul wrote:
If you have a cf 07 female ball python.
and the only way it will feed is assist and it has been assisted
for about 3 months what would you do.
It is already in a tiny tub. would you leave it for a few weeks or ??


I've had to assist some snakes for 2 - 3 mths but if the snake is normal and the environment is good, it should switch to normal food .... try feeding tricks, dark room, warm food, good hide box, try scenting the mouse on a African rat (don't know what you call them in the UK) ?


Thanks. . . dont know where i will get an african rat from!!!


Love the pastel pied!



Scott will this thread stay up I take it? for future reference.



i think its a gambian pouch rat but not sure Confused
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