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garysumpter
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I dont have a sledgehammer, been using one of my mums flipflops.
Seems to take a few whacks though 
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Stuart
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Sioux
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| Posted: Thu Aug 23, 2007 9:33 pm Post subject: |
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| Young_Gun wrote: | | If you can't manage to follow the instructions Sioux posted up (nice one for the info about rats gestation and breeding thingys aswell Sioux, much appreciated), then buy a Rodent Reaper, comes with everything you need to gas them. |
Glad you found the info useful!
This "rodent reaper" sounds a little "strange"? I have never heard of it.
Ah a quick search and I see where "they" are coming from( bi-carb & vinegar) its amazing the ways people will find to produce Co2
a reaction between and acid (vinegar) and a
base (baking soda). Such reactions typically form a "salt" and water. because the acid component was acetic acid, it allowed production
of one of the products ==> sodium acetate. That is the stuff referred to
as the "salt."
In the general case of simple acid-base reactions, the term, "salt"
refers to
the non-water, ionic product. If hydrochloric acid and sodium hydroxide were
the reactants, then NaCl (common salt) would be the non-water product. Your
reaction looks like this:
HC2H3O2 + NaHCO3 ===> NaC2H3O2 + H2CO3
Acetic acid plus sodium bicarbonate makes sodium acetate plus carbonic acid
The NaC2H3O2 is the salt called sodium acetate.
The H2CO3 (carbonic acid) then breaks down into water and carbon dioxide:
H2CO3 ===> H2O + CO2
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Phil1988
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| Posted: Thu Aug 23, 2007 9:36 pm Post subject: |
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 Well there's me confused
But great thread, thanks for posting it up! |
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Sioux
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| Posted: Thu Aug 23, 2007 9:38 pm Post subject: |
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| Stuart wrote: | | Quote: | Whacking the rodents seems straight forward enough, just wouldnt want to mess it up.
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I see Garys point here,and like Chris has said if you are not confident in doing it then please don't.Lets not start attacking each other as I'm sure you'll agree this is a very interesting thread and will surely be helpfull to many.  Keep it on track gents. 
Right I'm off to the rat shed with my sledgehammer..  |
That hurts (IF you don't keep your thumb outta the way  )
Joking apart it's quick if not a little messy and I would rather someone did this than try to drown them
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garysumpter
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To me drowning is NEVER an option, wouldnt even consider it.
Is whacking very messy?
So far, to me, dry ice seems like the most humane option 
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Sioux
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| Posted: Thu Aug 23, 2007 9:51 pm Post subject: |
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Is whacking very messy?
It can be, again you need control of how hard to hit
So far, to me, dry ice seems like the most humane option
I have never used this method is there a readily available supply of dry ice ? I would have thought that storage would be a problem as it would start to break down very quickly (at a temperature of -78.5oC, or -109.3oF)
Still not sure about this as I said it may well lower the "chamber" temp quite low before enough Co2 is released to kill the animal causing thermal shock / distress BUT I am interested to hear from anyone using the method and the "terminal temperature of the chamber
A useless piece of info .... 1 pound of dry ice, when it "sublimes" (turns to gas) will produce 250 liters of gas at atmospheric pressure
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garysumpter
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If my memory serves me, the yanks are using this method and an average sized block of dry ice lasts about 3 days in a normal freezer.
Obviously you would want to cull in big batches.
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stubeanz
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| Posted: Thu Aug 23, 2007 9:57 pm Post subject: |
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i found it quite informative thanx i would agree though practise with dead mice till its right, it would be horrible to not kill the mouse and cause it pain.
another method to kill instantly which hasnt been mentioned is to bang the mouse on the head, by swinging it with force into a hard surface they will die instantly.
also ive found pinkies can be thrown to the ground quite hard n they will die instantly but not too hard otherwise they will explode.
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Sioux
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| Phil1988 wrote: | Well there's me confused
But great thread, thanks for posting it up! |
Glad to have been of service Phil
Basically its just the formula of the way Co2 ( carbon dioxide) is produced
From Vinegar and bi-carb
its not really important I was just showing off
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