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phoenixfire1988 · Posted: Mon Nov 07, 2005 6:00 pm Post subject: grey rat snakes

hi i was wondering if two grey rat snakes would do any harm to each other if they were kept together.

JStroud · Posted: Mon Nov 07, 2005 7:33 pm Post subject:

No they shouldnt if not being fed at the same time. Obviously there can be other variants, but separation at feeding time or if its done under constant supervision usually results in two happy snakes.

All other points should also be covered, like correctr size vivarium and large enough hides at both the warm and cool ends for them to hide in.

Scott W · Posted: Mon Nov 07, 2005 7:59 pm Post subject:

like stroudster say, they will be fine but just watch them at feeding time or seperate to feed (they may accidently try to eat the same mouse).
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phoenixfire1988 · Posted: Tue Nov 08, 2005 1:54 pm Post subject:

what about size diference and sex? would that make any difference to the temperment towards each other?

and what size viv would you recommend for two?

phoenixfire1988 · Posted: Tue Nov 08, 2005 2:01 pm Post subject:

This is the grey rat snake i have at the moment. I don't plan on getting another until i have a large enough viv for both.

He's actually a little less orange than that, it's just a combination of poor lighting and a bad camera. lol

Scott W · Posted: Tue Nov 08, 2005 2:06 pm Post subject:

the size difference would only be a big problem during feeding, unless you are talking hatchling with adult, then that's probably not a good idea.

As with the sexes, 2 males or 2 females would be fine, 1 of each would probably result in eggs being laid. 2 Males can sometimes 'wrestle' with each other during the breeding season if they can smell a female but no harm normally comes from that.
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phoenixfire1988 · Posted: Tue Nov 08, 2005 9:58 pm Post subject:

ok so it would be bad if eggs were laid?

I was going to build a viv which would be 3ft long, 2 ft high and 2ft deep. Would that be large enough to house 2 grey rat snakes?

Scott W · Posted: Tue Nov 08, 2005 10:03 pm Post subject:

lol..no eggs aren't bad if you're ready for them, just need to make sure there is an egg laying box and then have an incubator ready, then of course space for 10 - 15 more mouths to feed.

Space wise, grey rats are quite active, I'd go for 4ft by 2ft by 2ft with a few sturdy branches for climbing.
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phoenixfire1988 · Posted: Tue Nov 08, 2005 10:20 pm Post subject:

well the tank was originally going to be for just the one snake, but decided that i would like another, so was really just wondering how big it would need to be.
so 4ft doesn't sound unresonable.

although, do you think it would be a good idea just to make it an extra foot higher?
was going to build it as a unit with cupboard and draw space.

Scott W · Posted: Tue Nov 08, 2005 10:24 pm Post subject:

as with most cages, bigger is normally always better.
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