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i wonder why one of the methods used for getting terrorists to talk is to keep them in very brightly lit rooms 24/7 for days ?
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| varanus wrote: | | i wonder why one of the methods used for getting terrorists to talk is to keep them in very brightly lit rooms 24/7 for days ? |
Are they fed rodents and insects too? 
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and given members of the opposite sex to reproduce with? 
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| Scott W wrote: | | and given members of the opposite sex to reproduce with? |
you wouldnt be being sarcastic now would you
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do any of you make your monitors stay out in open view all the time IE no hides? boards etc?
if you provide simple hides then your monitor is never forced into 24/7 lighting even if bulbs are left on for heating. so its not really an issue.
i think they know the difference between a light bulb and the sun.
i have tried 24/7 with monitors and what i observed was when the main tubes went off the lizards dissapeared for the night anyway.
i use ceramics now at night and not 24/7 light bulbs but i see no reason not to use a light bulb as a heat source at night providing there is ample places to be away from it. |
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yes I of course the hide under a log to escape the light option is of course the best course of action! Are any of you 24/7 advocates going to provide any advantages to doing so other than making it easier for you as keepers in terms of getting them bigger faster and breeding faster?
Im quite prepared to listen to any reasonable reasons why but im sorry the it can hide under a bit of wood if it wants to is the worst argument ive heard for anything in a long time
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| kev wrote: | lo
do any of you make your monitors stay out in open view all the time IE no hides? boards etc?
if you provide simple hides then your monitor is never forced into 24/7 lighting even if bulbs are left on for heating. so its not really an issue.
i think they know the difference between a light bulb and the sun.
i have tried 24/7 with monitors and what i observed was when the main tubes went off the lizards dissapeared for the night anyway.
i use ceramics now at night and not 24/7 light bulbs but i see no reason not to use a light bulb as a heat source at night providing there is ample places to be away from it. |
I kinda agree Kev, like I said in the second post on here, I have three vivs that have 24/7 powersuns never show themselves at 'night' when the main room lights have gone off. The only reason why the lights are on is because the timer broke  ....I'll fix it one day
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| Scott W wrote: | | kev wrote: | lo
do any of you make your monitors stay out in open view all the time IE no hides? boards etc?
if you provide simple hides then your monitor is never forced into 24/7 lighting even if bulbs are left on for heating. so its not really an issue.
i think they know the difference between a light bulb and the sun.
i have tried 24/7 with monitors and what i observed was when the main tubes went off the lizards dissapeared for the night anyway.
i use ceramics now at night and not 24/7 light bulbs but i see no reason not to use a light bulb as a heat source at night providing there is ample places to be away from it. |
I kinda agree Kev, like I said in the second post on here, I have three vivs that have 24/7 powersuns never show themselves at 'night' when the main room lights have gone off. The only reason why the lights are on is because the timer broke ....I'll fix it one day |
Yep they can go and get away from the light and therefore enforce there own cycle so what advantage is there to having the lights on?
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| varanus wrote: | | Scott W wrote: | | kev wrote: | lo
do any of you make your monitors stay out in open view all the time IE no hides? boards etc?
if you provide simple hides then your monitor is never forced into 24/7 lighting even if bulbs are left on for heating. so its not really an issue.
i think they know the difference between a light bulb and the sun.
i have tried 24/7 with monitors and what i observed was when the main tubes went off the lizards dissapeared for the night anyway.
i use ceramics now at night and not 24/7 light bulbs but i see no reason not to use a light bulb as a heat source at night providing there is ample places to be away from it. |
I kinda agree Kev, like I said in the second post on here, I have three vivs that have 24/7 powersuns never show themselves at 'night' when the main room lights have gone off. The only reason why the lights are on is because the timer broke ....I'll fix it one day |
Yep they can go and get away from the light and therefore enforce there own cycle so what advantage is there to having the lights on? |
I think the word you're looking for Paul is CHOOSE their own cycle not enforce their own. I'm not agreeing that there is an advantage at all....like I said mine are on 3 monitors vivs out of 28 monitor vivs because of a broken timer. But from what I have seen there seems to be no detrimental effects (so far) and they appear clever enough to bugger off when the main room lights are out.
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Yeah choose would be better, just dont see a long term advantage to the animal is all if keepers want to do it for there own advantages then its there choice but then they should admit its for there benifit not the animals benifit there seems no advantage to the animals only potential problems
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