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PostPosted: Wed Mar 15, 2006 2:24 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Of course it is! With a pretty picture of a herp on the box. Rolling Eyes

Rick you used to keep fish, what`s in that "Blackwater extract" ? Question
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PostPosted: Wed Mar 15, 2006 2:27 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

never used it mate soz Laughing
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PostPosted: Wed Mar 15, 2006 2:31 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Laughing Laughing
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PostPosted: Wed Mar 15, 2006 12:14 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Anything on the trex website???

What products are useful to have just in case????

A froggie medical case!!! lol
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PostPosted: Wed Mar 15, 2006 12:53 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Well from what Peabody says about this T-rex stuff it's probably a similar product to stress coat water conditioner.

Peter> Blackwater Extract is basically a concentrated tannin you can make your own by boiling a few leaves (oak or Indian almond are best) or a bit of drift wood in some water.
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PostPosted: Wed Mar 15, 2006 12:56 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

peabody wrote:
What products are useful to have just in case????
A froggie medical case!!! lol


I would look more at spending money to do all you can to prevent problems rather than stocking up on things you should never need.
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PostPosted: Wed Mar 15, 2006 1:03 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Pollywog wrote:
Well from what Peabody says about this T-rex stuff it's probably a similar product to stress coat water conditioner.

Peter> Blackwater Extract is basically a concentrated tannin you can make your own by boiling a few leaves (oak or Indian almond are best) or a bit of drift wood in some water.


Thanks Andrew, right tannins. Same story again then. Just a pot with a posh label of what you can pick up off the floor outside! I know adding an oak leaf to Dendrobates tadpole`s water is a tried and tested method of providing tannins. It has an anti-bacterial quality too doesn`t it?

Are there tannins in cork bark at all?
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PostPosted: Wed Mar 15, 2006 2:36 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

yes tannins do have anti-fungal & anti-bacterial properties.

All woods contain tannins some more so than others, stick your piece of cork bark in a tub and see how much comes out.
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I remember a fair while back I had Bombina orientalis and there was a water fall in the set up which was basically water flowing over a Java moss covered piece of cork bark. Plus a piece floating in the water section. After a while the water turned a (in my opinion) lovely pale tea stain colour but at the same time crystal clear. That`s why I asked. Thanks Andrew, (nice meeting you the other day at Dale`s by the way). Smile
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PostPosted: Wed Mar 15, 2006 3:47 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Peter Parrot wrote:
I remember a fair while back I had Bombina orientalis and there was a water fall in the set up which was basically water flowing over a Java moss covered piece of cork bark. Plus a piece floating in the water section. After a while the water turned a (in my opinion) lovely pale tea stain colour but at the same time crystal clear. That`s why I asked. Thanks Andrew, (nice meeting you the other day at Dale`s by the way). Smile



If you want tannins buy some mapanai wood it is loaded with the stuff and will turn your water into a rich tannin ocean overnight. Most pet shops sell it and 99% of aquarists sell it. I get mine from one of the leading multi chain pet stores 4.99 for a big lump of it very decorative it is to!
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