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garysumpter · CaptiveBred Addict! Joined: 07 Apr 2006 Posts: 914

But, apart from the ethical side, its illegal too, therefore I think it is right to make a point that 'the community' are against live feeding.

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MJ · Posted: Fri Aug 10, 2007 9:40 pm Post subject:

sam · Posted: Fri Aug 10, 2007 9:47 pm Post subject:

MJ · Posted: Fri Aug 10, 2007 9:55 pm Post subject:

Sam beat me to it Laughing

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sam · Posted: Fri Aug 10, 2007 10:19 pm Post subject:

Yeah, take that paul Laughing

I cant find anything more conclusive on it, it seems to be one of these shady areas of the law designed to put poeple off doing it, but allowing it in extreme cases.

I think its something which would only be brought to court if you were unlucky enough to be seen feeding live vertebrates (for whatever reason) by some busybody or over-zealous animal rights supporter.
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Herpquest · Posted: Fri Aug 10, 2007 11:40 pm Post subject:

aidan · Posted: Fri Aug 10, 2007 11:43 pm Post subject:

let them come to my door i don't feed live food i was just say he was asking? no need to go crazy
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sam · Posted: Fri Aug 10, 2007 11:56 pm Post subject:

Herpquest, where does it state exactly that its illegal? Im just wondering as all the research i did came up with it being something of a grey area...
I dont have anything which eats or would eat live vertebrate prey, nor do I plan to, but id like to know whats legal etc i this area as its something I may come across in practice.
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sam · Posted: Sat Aug 11, 2007 12:01 am Post subject:

Looking again, i suppose it depends on the definitions of "suffering"... the 99th amendment was planned to deal with this issue specifically, but i ma not sure what became of it (the documents I checked didnt say)

From first looks, and even with a little research, it seems to be a grey area.

Note that i am not defending it either way, i just want to find out what the legal status is.
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Snowy · Contributing Member Joined: 03 Jun 2007 Posts: 179

Herpquest you are incorrect, as before the change it has always been illegal to do it for "entertainment" value (think youtube) or just as a matter of course because you feel like it. But is still legal if it is for the health and well being of the snake, to prevent suffering or death. Defrost/fresh kill is always preferable but if for some reason a snake will only eat live you can feed it live as long as you cover your bases and go to a recognised reptile vet and get them to say so in written form.

After all it is then a toss up between the causing unecessary suffering by allowing a snake to starve or the short term suffering of a prey animal while it is being killed.

The amended act allows the authorities (or should we say the RSPCA given they are the ones that deal with animal cruelty most of the time) to act if they have suspicion that suffering is being caused, wheras before they had to have a complaint to work from.

After all if you take the act to its' extreme you could say it is illegal for us to keep reptiles as pets at all as there are people who believe it is cruel to keep them in "cages".
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